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[Ooble]

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[gjmveloso]

For me only two improvments are necessary...

Update Gnutella Plugin to catch G1 and G2
Update Ares Plugin to catch the new netowork... I see a lot of users of Ares with "GenialGIFT" nickname... No official Ares filesharing program use this network....

EDonkey2000 is the biggest network but isn´t necessary...

[mkern]

GenialGift is a KCeasy clone of which I haven't been able to find the official website yet.

[mkern]

Scratch that, I was thinking of another clone. GenialGift is the one with the suspicious looking emailer program. Its page is at http://www.geniais.downloadgospel.com/ggift/index.html . It's kinda hard to keep track of all the ripoffs.

[arny528]

I'm in for Kademlia (not Kademila... typo ). While using eMule, I found MORE stuf on Kad then on eD2k!

eD2k itself could also be a worthy addition, since both networks contain VAST amounts of files. Since I use p2p mostly for the rare to find stuff, I like having a wide choice. But, like i said, I got the feeling that Kad is even better if not the same as eD2k. But, those networks feel kind of last resort option - I connect to eD2k in Shareaza only when i run out of sources on both Gnutella networks, I don't like the enormous queues of course.

Perhaps Overnet could do as good as Kad, I've never used it.

And about G2, I found much stuff I couldn't on Gnutella, so I'd also like to see that.

And lastly, I always loved OpenNAP, it was great for music. Way back, I almost exclusively used WinMX, was especially nice for (again) rare stuff, and there were many sources for more popular ones.

So to sum up, I'd say the more, the merrier. More networks (and bigger networks) means more sources for the popular files (faster DLs) and better chance to find rare stuff (most important to me).

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[mkern]

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ed2k

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ed2k would be great!

[Allied]

Been reading up on eMule. It's got me wondering, is Kad even possible if you don't have ED2K?

Kad bootstraps via ED2K servers. Therefore you need a met to find Kad users.

And it's not really a network. It's a peer exchange system.

[Allied]

This topic was started more than 2 years ago. Wed Apr 07, 2004.
Why not lock this one and start a new one?

Kad, G2, ED2K, BitTorrent and Circle.

People say Kad 2.0 is fast. No overhead problems. But can it bootstrap without an ED2K server? If it can, put it on the new poll.

G2. GnucDNA is silent. Every Gnutella guru I've talked(both) to says it's dead. Since Shareaza connects to Gnutella, in theory every user on G2 is already reachable by KCeasy. I'd leave it off the poll.

ED2K, the biggest network. It's approached the 5 million mark. eDonkey2000, emule, Shareaza, mldonkey, Hydranode and lphant all connect to it. Why shouldn't giFT? Put it on the poll.

BitTorrent, no. Trying to mix BitTorrent with conventional P2P is like putting a cheetah on a skateboard. Shareaza, eDonkey2000, mldoneky, Morpheus, TrustyFiles and others have tried. It doesn't work. the pinacle of BitTorrent technology will come piece by newly coded piece. DHT, peer exchange and whatever else Oliver and Ludvig come up with. Leave it off the poll.

The Circle. Out of all the tiny P2P networks out there, why should KCeasy pay attention to this one? I like the idea of a decentralized hashtable, but I've got to assume Kad is a few steps ahead of these guys. Leave it off the poll.


As for new poll options, any new source of sources would be nice. But finding the next Gnutella or Ares is tough.

Soulseek. Central server = bad. Paying for front of the line access = bad.
I suggested MP2P before. But I have no support for the MP3 only network. It doesn't make sense to limit a network to just 1 filetype.
OpenNap. I know the network name, I know it's been around for a while. But I can't think of any leading clients. Lobster comes to mind but that's it.
Overnet. Why? so we can download from eDonkey2000 users?

WPNP would be cool. It could possibly snatch up all those WinMX refugees and kill those patch programs.
Of course, with no cornerstone for the WPNP network it'd be like having another OpenFT. There's so many KCeasy clone GUI's for giFT. Someone should make a WinMX clone GUI. Bring those WinMX users over to a network that's alive and kicking.

...programming is what made me drop out of college. I can't imagine how anyone can make programs and networks like these. What I find even weirder is that people are willing to start from scratch so quickly. Why make a new P2P network when you can just play with an existing one?

[mkern]

Well, I don't really see what a poll is going to achieve.

I personally would find it useful to have either ed2k or kad support in KCeasy/giFT. Unfortunately giFT's architecture is not at all compatible with the way these networks operate. And while it may still be possible to get some (suboptimal) working plugin for these networks I personally do not have the time to make it.

[Allied]

I know the poll is pretty useless, but it's nice to be able to think of multi-networking.

Bring up the idea of multi-networking on a forum like Slyck, you'll be in trouble. The Gnutella fans will say Gnutella is the only network that matters. The eMule fans will say ED2K and Kad are the only networks that matter. The Ares fans will say Ares is the best network. The Shareaza fans will say G2 is the best network, but they need to use ED2K and Gnutella because Shareaza has an unfair bad reputation.

A guy can dream.

[Vargas]

or maybe a cddb plugin/lookup (like YAGGUI)

[Kurrado]

BitTorrent & eD2k